Episode 14

Moving toward human liberatory models (ft. Ulcca Joshi Hansen, Ph.D., J.D.)

In this episode, I speak with Ulcca Joshi Hansen, author, educational thought leader and social change advocate with a twenty-year career dedicated to shifting the foundational values and approaches that undergird America‚Äôs education system. She currently serves as the Chief Program Officer for Grantmakers for Education, a member organization that serves as a trusted partner for education philanthropists as they adapt to the changes impacting our world. Her latest book is The Future of Smart and she has a couple TEDx talks that are well worth a listen. We discuss:

  • How this is the first time that employers want the skills that human liberatory models claim to provide (and Ulcca also defines what human liberatory models are!);


  • How the thinking that got us here won't get us out of here: mechanistic/Newtonian thinking needing to make way for quantum thinking/ancient wisdoms;


  • How blockchain and other emerging technologies are tools that might help us get to where we want to go, but they aren't the destination.

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The Coconut Thinking podcast brings together educational provocateurs who are re-thinking school as a concept and a space.